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THP Podcast – The Heroic Road Trip

Welcome to this episode of The Heroic Play Podcast.  Luke, Andy and John all headed to Peter O’Sullivan’s Gentlemen’s Guild Ball Club tournament in Cambridge.

I packed them off with a mic, some dice and this is what they created; from all accounts they had a great day at a really smoothly ran event so full credit to Peter there.

Thresher is still a boogey man, I’m sure that we’ll unlock the puzzle before too long.

Hope you enjoy the podcast!

As always, we welcome feedback.

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SeaBrisket goes back to School

Fourth tournament with Union and after 1 win-3 losses at the 13th Best in Nottingham, a 3 win – 1 loss at Wyldhammer and then a 3 win – 1 loss result at the Heroic Hoe Down; I felt pretty sure that I was starting to get the hang of SeaBrisket and although I was still of the mindset that she needs TAC: 6 and can lose that ‘With Aplomb!’ nonsense. I needed to have one last hurrah with her before making the decision to either stick with Union or go back and get reacquainted my beloved Butchers.

So, with no thought at all and setting my usual target of at least win something; I assembled some toy soldiers and headed to The Chase Hotel for another 4 rounds of hilarity.

My chosen tournament 10 and why:

SeaBrisket   

Kind of the point!

Strongbox

Shelling Out! KD on 1, MOAR DICE!

Snakeskin                           

Super awesome ball carrier with the ability to pain out if required with 2dmg on 2.

Gutter                                 

Anatomical, 2″ Melee, A hard counter to Original Brisket. Also, re-position tech is strong.

Benediction                       

He stands in the middle of the field and makes awesome happen.

Minx                                   

Snared, huuuuge threat range, rawr! 2 iinf to give someone else!

Avarisse and Greede      

+1 damage and a KD…. Nuff said!

Hemlock                             

Lesser played character but I like Def 5 models with slippery that can heal and blind

ORage                                  

For buffing the A&G train and mirking fools.

Decimate                            

BECAUSE DECIMATE!

 

Game 1: Vs. Thomas Simms  

SeaBrisket (10)                  vs.                          Scalpel (12)

Strongbox                                                           Dirge

A&G                                                                      Ghast

Gutter                                                                  Mist

Snakeskin                                                            Silence

Benediction                                                        Brainpan and Memory

 

This was a cracking game and Thomas is a great guy and a true gent. It’s fair to say that this was one of those games where you never feel like either one of you is running away with it and it was VP swinging fun everywhere.

I opened with a Brisket legendary jank to set up a turn 1 3 dice shot on goal needing 3 and rolled 2,2,2. As my heart broke, Brisket got the shoeing she deserved but I managed to get straight back in the game with a monstrous use of  Avarisse and Greede  to secure 3 take outs. When Brisket got back on the pitch, she grabbed the ball and made good on her earlier fo-pah.

Honestly, this was probably my favourite game (that I lost) in absolutely ages. I thoroughly enjoyed playing Thomas and I had to work my bum off to keep myself in it.

 

MVP: A&G. This little combo will never get old….

1) Swag in with Avarisse

2) Drop Greede

3) Greede buys attack for the Singled Out

4) Avarisse has 3 attacks

5) If needed and is safe to do so, Greede finishes the player off. Otherwise, he crawls back up in to Avarisse.

 

Never get boring…

Ever…

 

Game 2: Vs. Charles Nurser

SeaBrisket (8)                    vs.                          Blackheart (12)

Strongbox                                                           Strongbox

A&G                                                                      Mist

Hemlock                                                              Gutter

Snakeskin                                                            Decimate

Benediction                                                        Benediction

 

Charles is a gentleman, a scholar and an acrobat. I had another great game and he locked SeaBrisket down with 2” melee characters so effectively took her out of the game. Charles used Benediction brilliantly by putting him in cover with the ball and that made him hard to get the ball off. That said, Snakeskin came to the rescue, getting me 2 goals. The second of which went down like this;

Snakeskin is at the enemy goal with 4 influence. Benediction has the ball 6” in front of her.

1) Shadow Like and put up ‘Clone’

2) Buy an attack, Charles declares Poised and realises, I tell him he can take it back but like a boss, says no.

3) I take the tackle and he counters

4) Clone pops and I dodge back towards goal, getting 4” away.

5) She shoots and scores!

 

However you look at it, I really enjoyed playing Charles and I hope we can do it again.

MVP: Snakeskin for 2 goals and use of Clone to get goal.

 

Game 3: Vs. Dave Wildey

SeaBrisket (6)                    vs.                          Honour (12)

Strongbox                                                           Marbles

A&G                                                                      Brick

Decimate                                                             Harmony

Snakeskin                                                            Flint

Gutter                                                                  Mallet

 

I always enjoy having David at Heroic Play events as he always smiles and is always cheery. He genuinely cheers me up when I watch him play. We have played before and have always had great games.

Now, I have an appalling record against Masons and he was playing the line-up I dread seeing! And that was where it went wrong for me; I let my anxiety get the better of me and before the game even started I could feel the flight reaction and the nervousness. Nevertheless, I tried to calm myself and get on with the job at hand.

David thoroughly deserved the win, he out played me and I can say that I was not on top form or whatever, but the truth is that I wasn’t coherent enough and he made me pay for it like any good opponent should. I managed a take-out and a goal, which I was happy with in the end.

Although, in this game; something clicked about SeaBrisket vs. other captains like Vet rage, Blackheart and Honour and that got me thinking about what she needed to get her on par with Blackheart and Vet rage.  See my conclusion for the results of that!

MVP: Honour. David played her really well and I folded like a bad poker hand.

 

Game 4: Vs. Michael Rees

SeaBrisket (8)                    vs.                          Scalpel (12)

Strongbox                                                           Dirge

A&G                                                                      Ghast

ORage                                                                   Bonesaw

Benediction                                                        Mist

Gutter                                                                  OGraves

 

Michael is a great opponent and part of the Birmingham/Black country meta so we knew each other well. I had never played him though so I was looking forward to putting it all on the line to try to not to go 0-4 for the first time ever.

I started really well. Used Briskets legendary to get momentum to set up the goal alongside some good take out action on Scalpel and Graves between Rage and Brisket. But I over-extended and the turning point came when I foolishly moved before hitting Ghast and that was all she wrote. A counter attack later and Scalpel got set up for an epic 2 take-outs in 1 activation and at 8 all Michael was on the front foot. I had the option to get the ball off Dirge and go for the goal but in a moment of madness, activated someone else and did very little with it. This was all he needed to put the game away. I enjoyed the game, but felt a bit sad that I hadn’t played well in the last 2 games. Nevertheless, the thought about SeaBrisket that had cropped up in the previous game was kind of validated.

MVP: Scalpel. She is crazy bonkers awesome when she gets her murder on!

 

The tournaments write up:

So, I poo’d in my swimsuit today going 0-4 for the first time but you know what… I’m ok with that. I have some things to work on and I got some great advice from Rich Green (who (B)Rick Rolled me at Hoe Down) about playing against Masons. Also, I got to chat to Charles, Thomas and all the cool kids about SeaBrisket and it was nice to know that I’m not alone in my thoughts around her being TAC: 6 and are shared by others.

Will it stop me from playing more SeaBrisket? Probably not in all honesty as you only get competent with something through practice right?

 

Conclusion:

The usual disclaimer: this conclusion contains opinions.

This little journey is about SeaBrisket and the question; “Is she a competitive choice vs. VRage and Blackheart?” Honestly, not quite. She has great tech to go and score. But that’s her 1 move and it sits on 2 successes as a T< and at TAC: 5 you can’t guarantee it. Also, she lacks the offensive ability that the other captains have.  Rage has Quick Time so he also can get away if needs be while Blackheart can almost guarantee you 6vp activation at the start of round 2 and with Shadow Like and his Legendary Dodge tech he is never stuck anywhere whereas poor old SeaBrisket gets trolled by 2” melee zones.

I stand by the need for her to go to TAC: 6 and changing her ‘With Aplomb!” for something that would make her an on par choice vs. Blackheart. The game vs. David gave me a solution but I’m not the kind of person to say; ‘that’s an issue’ and not give a proposed solution.

Here goes nothing!

The thing to stop her being shut down and it’s the character play that sits on her veteran incarnation and on VRage!

Yep, this!

Swap ‘With Aplomb!’ for ‘Quick Time’ and let her go to TAC: 6. I mean, let’s look at the fluff for a second. Sweet little Brisket at TAC: 4 turns in to Veteran Brisket after being stabbed up by Snakeskin. This leaves her meaner and TAC: 5. Her master in imprisoned and she sells her soul, betrays her guild to get him released and gets the better of ‘The Flashing Blade’ in a pit fight in the process! Pweez mummy… SeaBrisket needs TAC: 6.

But where does that leave her card wise?

Here’s what she now is versus what I think she should look like. Doing this would make most Union Players have a hard time choosing which captains to take.

The card as it is now.        

       

The card as I think it should be.

Summary of changes.

The addition of 3< damage at 5 is on par with her Veteran card which has 3 and Balls Gone on 5. The T<< makes sense for a striker of her calibre and it matches where Decimate has it and the Momentous 3<< is a huge payoff for hitting that 6 successes but no different to Blackheart having 3KD on 6.

TAC: 6 gives her a more reliable T< on 2 but still leaves her 50/50 against a Def: 4/Arm: 1 model as the average is 2 successes.  The Quick Time makes her more mobile and harder to pin down. She can still be based by a 2” melee model but at least she can get away to a degree by using her T< + Quick Time.

The reverse of the card stays the same.

Anyways, I have no idea when I am next going to go to a tournament but I know I’ll be taking SeaBrisket again. I learned a lot playing in this tournament and especially against Charles’ Union; he showed me that Benediction is an awesome ball carrier!

Big love!

Andy

 

 

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Sea Brisket goes to The Hoe Down!

Sup!

Been a while since I wrote anything but here’s my write up for my jaunt to The Heroic Hoe Down!

So, it’s my third tournament with Union and after a 1-3 record at the 13th Best in Notts, a 3-1 at Wyldhammer with Blackheart, a lot of people had talked about SeaBrisket and the general feeling I got was that she was O.K. but not as competitive as VRage or Beardy McBeardface.

So obviously, in my capacity as a distinctly average player with no dreams of grandeur, passable wit and an intelligence that sits somewhere between sleep deprived parent and medically unstable, I decided that this tournament would see me take her as my sole captain and see what I could do. I set myself the usual ‘Win 1 game’ objective and got to it!

My chosen tournament 10 and why

SeaBrisket        

Kind of the point!

Strongbox 

Shelling Out! KD on 1, MOAR DICE!

Snakeskin    

Super awesome ball carrier with the ability to pain out if required with 2dmg on 2.

Gutter        

If I ran into Butchers and have to face another OBrisket in cover I was going to cry! So I took Gutter to get around her unpredictable, armour and charmed male. Also, re-position tech is strong.

Benediction 

He stands in the middle of the field and trolls people. He’s the new Harry.

Grace      

MOAR MOVEMENT! THINGS! 8″ KICKZ!

Avarisse and Greede  

BECAUSE THEY ARE BENT!

Hemlock    

Lesser played character but I like Def 5 models with slippery that can heal and blind.

ORage      

For buffing the A&G train and mirking fools.

Mist

BECAUSE MIST!

 

So, lets get to it then. How did I do?

 

Game 1: Me vs. Myk

SeaBrisket (12)                  vs.                       Esters (10)

Strongbox                                                           Quaff

A&G                                                                      PintPot

Gutter                                                                  Spigot

Snakeskin                                                            OSpigot

Benediction                                                        Mash

At the end of this game, Myk and I were exhausted! It was super close all the way through, swinging this way and that but I managed to get the VP to close out the game.  Myk is a fantastic guy and we had a brilliant game.

SeaBrisket did loads and against the low def of his team, her Momentous 2 on 3 really helped whittle down his players but Snakeskin was a total workhorse and her 2 damage on 2 closed the game out for me.

MVP: Snakeskin. My goodness she is amazing at closing out a turn.

Game 2: Me vs. Jimmy

SeaBrisket (12)                  vs.                       Skatha (10)

Strongbox                                                           Snow

A&G                                                                      Jaecar

Gutter                                                                  VHearne

Snakeskin                                                            Seenah

Benediction                                                        Minx

Firstly, let me say that Jimmy is an amazing opponent to play and is always super fun but my goodness, his painting and winter themed goal for his Hunters are just brilliant!

Like my 1st game against Myk, the game was super close all the way through, at 8-12 I had a situation where I had 1st turn and Brisket was 5” from the goal, KD and the ball was on Snow about 3” away. Brisket had Seenah crowding out on one side and (iirc) Skatha on the other, not quite crowning her out at this stage.

I had to manufacture a goal to win and this is what happened.

  1. Brisket stands up with 6 inf, foregoing her standard advance.
  2. Throws a 1 dice route one at Snow…. A 4!
  3. Brisket swags up to Snow, 1” away and being crowded out by Seenah and Skatha, buys a 3 dice attack wanting 2 successes for the T<
  4. Snow declares counter
  5. … 1 success… shit..
  6. Take non-mom dodge into Seenah and out of Snows melee range
  7. 5 dice attack on Seenah, some successes! Take the T< because I can still do the didge part and it’s momentous!
  8. Dodge back into Snow, 1” away…
  9. Bonus time another attack at Snow to get to 4 dice… 2 successes! Take the momentous T<
  10. Dodge away from Skatha and Snow and take that shot crowded out by Seenah.
  11. 2 dice needing a 3….
  12. A 1 and SOMETHING THAT SCORES!
  13. Curl up in to foetal position…..

 

I was really lucky to have got the win but that was probably the most ‘pants in crack’ moments I have ever had at a tournament, which was great!

MVP: Sea Brisket for janky goal fun.

Game 3: Me vs. Craig

SeaBrisket (12)                  vs.                       Blackheart (8)

Strongbox                                                           Strongbox

A&G                                                                      A&G

Hemlock                                                              Minx

Snakeskin                                                            Mist

Benediction                                                        Benediction

Another crazy game where the game could have gone either way. Ultimately, Craig clocked out and those 2vp put me on 10vp and that gave a 4 influence stacked Snakeskin the chance to close out the game by pummeling an 8 health, knocked down Mist with her super reliable 2dmg on 2.

Seriously though, a lot gets said about holding the ball for Brisket with her defensive tech but not a lot gets said about her 2 damage on 2 because it’s not momentous. But…. as a last activation with 4 influence on a model that’s knocked down, she can put out 8-12 damage reliably + a poison that can’t be cleared. So, I used her to snipe any model that was around the 10-12 HP mark at the end of a turn to give easy VP. She won me 2 of my games doing this so I feel validated that she is a great killer to close out games with.

 

MVP: Snakeskin, non-mom 2 on 2 is more of a thing than you think it is.

Game 4 vs. Rich

SeaBrisket (6)                    vs.                       Honour (12)

Strongbox                                                           Marbles

A&G                                                                      Prick Brick

Gutter                                                                  Harmony

Snakeskin                                                           Flint

Benediction                                                        Mallet

This game was like getting sent an e-mail from your mate saying; ‘check out this vid bro!’ and being (B)Rick Rolled…

Rich has been playing his Masons for ever and he is super competitive in every game he plays. He regularly ends up top 2 and is an extremely difficult opponent to break down. I knew I was the underdog but held hope that few goals would keep me in it.

I couldn’t stop the onslaught… Brick and Marbles protecting Mallet throwing out singled out and knock downs for Honour and Harmony linked brutality. I was pleased to squeeze 6vp out, but honestly, I was never in this one from turn 2 onwards. Rich out classed me and fair play to him, he is a top mason’s player. I toyed with the idea of Hemlock instead of Gutter and I wish I had because Blind would have helped slow him down a bit, maybe enough to launch a counter offensive.  And I think Grace would have given me some speed buffs to get A&G up in Marbles and Brick’s grizzle.

MVP: Rich’s masons.

Conclusion

Overall, I set about to prove to myself that Sea Brisket is as good a choice for Union captain in tournament play and that Snakeskin wasn’t just an afterthought. I think I proved that to myself at the tournament by taking the 2nd place and when you stop and look at who generated VP’s for me; the player who gets the MVP trophy would be Snakeskin. I’m going to find it hard not to take her in a game with SeaBrisket now.

Final thoughts on SeaBrisket and her as a ‘viable‘ captain

Sea Brisket will suffer as a captain pick vs. Blackheart and VRage because (WARNING: opinion incoming) the others have no wasted character plays whereas Brisket could happily lose ‘With Aplomb’ and replace it with something that makes a difference. I believe that a subtle change would see her played more and I think that giving her Acrobatic or even raising her kick or tac stat by 1 would do that.

Anyways, I haven’t written anything for ages Guild Ball related so the fact I have probably tells you how excited I am about continuing the Sea Brisket journey and seeing what else I can get away with!

See you all at the 32-player blitz in October or at SteamCon!

Andy

 

 

 

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THP Podcast – Guild Identity Cards

The latest episode from The Heroic Play where Mark, Luke, Rich and Andy talk about the newly released Guild Identity Cards from Steamforged.

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THP Podcast – Life after the Errata

Welcome back sports fans!

In the latest episode of The Heroic Play podcast, Mark, Rich & Luke discuss players that we think probably deserve some changes in a future errata. We talk about mystery boxes and our upcoming tournament.

As always we welcome your feedback!

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Sins of the Flesh: Part III

Welcome back readers!

Since my last article I’ve managed to pull in a few more games with the Butchers.  I’m thoroughly enjoying playing the Butchers at the moment, I’ve played my last three games with Ox. The first game I played was against Luke, we tried out the alternate formation rules currently being being rolled out by Steamforged.  Luke took a Smoke led Alchemists team made up of Smoke, Naja, Mercury, Calculus, Venin and Veteran Katalyst.  I rolled out with Ox, Princess, Boar, vBrisket, Boiler and Meathook. It was an odd game, we aren’t fans of the alternate formation rules.  The only good things we can really say about it are that we like how it skips the first turn, which can sometimes be a bit dull for one player.

Luke played a strong condition game as I expected from Smoke led alchemists and shut down Boar and put a load of conditions out, at the start of turn 2 both vBrisket and Boar were looking quite fragile.  Luke won initiative I think and vKat went into Boar and got the Witness Me! off and took him out pulling it up to 4-0.  I think I preceded to kill Venin and Mercury.  Meathook got killed quite quickly bringing it up to 6-4 and I managed to get my hands on Smoke, equalling the score out.  vBrisket is such a strong ball carrier, with Quick Time and Unpredictable Movement, so she kept the ball at arms length from Luke’s team.

Smoke went down around the start of turn, both Boar and vKat had come back on by this point and I managed to get a charge using Fast Ground with Boar into vKat.  Luke had made a pretty big error by leaving vKat too close to the edge of the pitch so Boar shoved him straight back off into the crowd bringing it up to 8-6 to me.  From this point Luke was pretty out of position and I managed to get vBrisket into threat of the goal and close the game out for a 12-6 win.

As I’ve said we’ve done a podcast about our thoughts on the alternate pitch formation rules.  Overall we don’t rate them.

The second game I pulled in was against David Kenchington, the Pundit based at the Leicester Phat Cats club.  David has run a couple of events and has one coming up soon, check the details out on TieBreak here.  David is normally a Butchers player himself so I was expecting a pretty tough game, with him knowing all of my tricks.  Again this game was against Smoke Alchemists, David rolled out with Smoke, Flask, Mercury, Calculus, Veteran Katalyst and Decimate. I went with Ox, Princess, Harry, vBrisket, Boiler and Meathook.  David played a pretty cautious game, layering conditions on and keeping my Butchers out of the fight as much as possible.  I managed to get my hands on Smoke and Mercury early game and bring them down.  Dave got a goal early doors and I then kept the ball away from him on vBrisket.  Harry and Boiler got put in the dirt after being whittled down by conditions.  I managed to get a goal with vBrisket, then David kicked the ball out to my left where most of his team were and started passing the ball up to Smoke who wasn’t too far from the goal. Ox came back on and chewed Decimate up, bringing the score to 10-8 to me, then David closed out with fairly safe Smoke tap in.  The game ended 12-10 win to the Alchemists.

So Butchers really aren’t designed for attrition play.  Not being able to get into range of the alchemists due to conditions and the threat of vKatalyst absolutely chewing up people with a condition on really, makes you have to play cagey about how many people you try and push forward into the scrum.  When everybody is either on fire or poisoned and you’re being starved of momentum by not being able to get into a fight.  I find the threat of those Intensify’s going off a bit of a turn off, I might be wrong and you might just have to weather a round of it, to be able to get the team into position, then if only one person goes down when you get to pile a couple of people in.

My final game was this evening against Andy one of my regular opponents, we’ve played against each other more times than I can remember, but we both jump around teams a bit, myself more than Andy anyway.  Andy played Union, taking Captain Brisket, Strongbox, Grace, Benediction, Avarisse & Greede and Mist.  I played the same line up as I did against David, so Ox, Princess, Harry, vBrisket, Boiler and Meathook.  Andy elected to kick off, I retrieved it with Boiler and held onto while near some cover. Mist came in managed to grab the ball then passed it back to his lines.  I basically dog piled Mist and made a mess of him.  In the next turn Brisket came in and scored for Andy, then used Knee Slider to get back to safety.  I put Grace in the dirt with Boiler and then started on Beneditction with Ox.  It’s worth noting that this game went very well for and Andy had some really atrocious dice.  My Brisket was holding the ball and playing keep away from Andy’s team.  As we go into the next turn I went with Ox early and put some more damage onto Benediction then Andy came in with Avarisse and Greede onto Ox, they made a mess.  At this stage I was quite worried, I had used Ox’s legendary this turn. Fortunately for me, Avarisse and Greede left Ox alive on 1 HP. Meathook piled into Avarisse and put a pile of damage into him. I used some of the momentum to heal Ox up to take him out of being poked and falling over dead.  Mist had come back on and was able to get to engage Brisket and retrieve the ball and drop it behind him.  Boiler went and had a brilliant activation, managing to pile a ton of damage onto Avarisse on the first hit, standing Ox up for the extra crowd out, then hitting him again and killing him getting a push/dodge off to engage Greede, then made his last couple of attacks to put Greede down as well, bringing the score to 8-4 to the Butchers.  The turn rolls round and Andy goes for a goal with Mist, just being outside of tap in range and missing the shot.  Boiler kills Benediction, then everyone dog piles Mist again to take him down and win the game.

After this game I’m definitely going to be more careful around Avarisse and Greede, they hit like a freight train.

That’s it for this instalment, take care and enjoy the game!